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    Post by Loli Gaga Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:45 am

    What are your view upon the subject matter (if this gets out of hand messy i'm gonna lock this topic)

    i had a friend who committed suicide, i never thought she was that miserable, she was a really happy person, who had so much ahead of her.

    but then one day, she dies, not by accident, but because she killed her self, no one knew the reason as to why, but she just did it, she hang her self kneeling.

    now does that make her wrong?

    Or is it just because?

    just so happened bad friends and bad timing all at the same time...

    Is suicide really, all that bad, when all of the world turn against you?

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    Post by Dio Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:49 am

    i dunno if this topic should have been created to be honest it is a ver=y sensitive subject.

    though i guess my view is there are always other ways to resolve thing than resorting to death or self harm for that matter. hurting yourself would only cause yourself more distress and plunge yourself futher into the dark depressing depths.

    i cant see how things would get so bad that killing yourself is a good prospect. sure it ends the misery but that can also be taken away with time and caring compassionate friends.
    people shouldnt resort to death because things are hard, there is always someone out there suffering worse than them. things may not be going their way for the time being but there is always better solutions. talk to a friend about your problems, talk to a relative or a professional.
    this could be a little over the top for some people.
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    i dont know why people do it and it isnt right they should try and find better less harmful solutions
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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:05 pm

    Suicide is in my opinion, admitting defeat to life, and thus, it is inacceptable as it is a sign of weakness
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    Post by Emma-Hell Girl Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:20 pm

    I have no position to judge it is right or wrong to suicide. However, I personally think suicide isn’t the solution to solve the problem. Sure they might feel release from their pain but they also give up on their happiness. No one promise life is easy. Everyone has to suffer in some point during their journey. If we survive the hardship then happiness will follow. If rain doesn’t exist then there wouldn’t be rainbow.

    No, I can’t say suicide is bad, but it only proves that you cannot handle the challenge of life. Life never goes against a person. It only challenges a person to push them stronger. There is nothing in this world that you can’t find a solution or a way out. The answers are all lies in the nature. If we look deep into the nature we will find the answer to our question.
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    Post by Upgrade Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:34 pm

    I dont agree with suicide, unless there is NO other option. For example, say if you where dieing in hospital and wanted to die (Suicide) i think that eauthinasia (Spelling?) should be used. Eauthinasia is not legal here in england though, although i think it should be..


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    Post by JennyReika Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:08 am

    I dont agree with suicide, especially for younger ppl who are healthy...

    All it does is hurt the ppl around them...
    Sometimes things can be hard, and life can be hard, and ppl can be cruel, but that is never a reason to let someone else get the better of you, or win.

    You are better than those people... and there are ppl would would love that person, just as much as the bad ppl dislike them...

    Suicide, in reality, I just dont agree with. I think its an easy escape for ppl who cant handle life.


    I do... however... agree in "assisted suicide" ... when a patient is in too much pain, and they are dying... I agree that they should be allowed to give their consent to a doctor to let them go...

    That is a persons personal option, and if they want to go with no pain and in dignity if theyre going to die anyways or be brain dead, then they should have that option given to them.

    Thats their own prerogative.

    Just my views.
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    Post by Arcsocon Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:49 am

    (Before anyone wonders who the hell the guy was who selected 'I'm all for it'; that was..I.. Srry couldn't hold myself back, just found it having a funny ring <.<)

    Suicide on itself is a serious matter though, never have I known someone who actually tried to kill himself so I don't really know how to react to all of it :S Guess it would suck (hard) =(

    Though that doesn't mean I say it is a good thing; you should be happy, not so depressive that you'd kill yourself =S Even if bad things happen, they're bound to go better one day ^^

    I dont agree with suicide, unless there is NO other option. For example, say if you where dieing in hospital and wanted to die (Suicide) i think that eauthinasia (Spelling?) should be used. Eauthinasia is not legal here in england though, although i think it should be..

    "Just come over to Belgium, you can always die here where it's allowed ^^ xD"
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    Post by Elli-sama Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:42 am

    I still miss her, you know?

    But I try not to think of WHY she did it. It's her own decision--however it may be twisted.

    In the context of generalizing suicide, however, I have different views on it. Although, it's in the religious matter (OMG. Me? Religious?) I think that we don't have any right to end our life because it was just lent to us. By whom? By God. XD

    So say no to drugs--Oh, I mean, suicide. :/


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    Post by Dark Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:59 am

    I disagree with this cause really your on this earth and your just gonna go and end your life everyone one around u is gonna be hurt.
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    Post by Hazou Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:29 pm

    I want to murder them before they get an option.
    If they want to die, I want to give them something real painful to think about.
    Reason:
    Well my murdering them would be more of a punishment then their suicide.
    I would make them spit out of all their lies and secrets and kinda of have them die when they were in so much more pain.
    Most kids these days kill themselves for ridiculous reasons.
    And they always want pity when they have no reason to be pitied. Because they never do anything for themselves.
    They don't go for help.
    And I cannot help someone who isn't willing to help themselves.
    If they want to waste their life away I will make sure they feel the most pain they have before they killed themselves, then I would kill them.
    They are leaving so much behind just because they feel like mud.
    When I feel like mud I try to find help and if you can't talk to someone talk to the paper.
    Write down your emotions who cares what it sounds like, who cares if its professional or not just write it down and listen to music.
    Try to help yourself before you just throw your life away because Rihana says suicide is cool, because your friends says it cool and we can do it together, or because your boyfriend dumped you.
    There is no reason for you to kill yourself for any of those reasons.
    And that is what this song is about...I think.
    At least that is what I tried to portray.
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    Post by Dark Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:57 am

    Well I know that I all starts at home. First they cry then they resolve to cutting their wrist until it just overpowers them and they end there lives just like that. I don't think god (sorry anyone who doesn't believe in him) didn't put u on earth so that u can just throw your life away. I know about three people who tried to commit suicide and it's not healthy even when u didn't do it. Something in your head still whispers telling u to do it and that would be a back up plan if anything else goes wrong.
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    Post by Haji Yukimura Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:41 am

    Well.... Suicide is a very touchy subject indeed. Not just because of the way it impacts a single life, but the way that it is sulturally viewed.

    When one looks at something like suicide, it goes deeper than just depression or sadness. It becomes like a prism that shines out in many directions.

    For example, those with a terminal ilness sometimes choose to end their suffering rather than continue. Ethically is this wrong? Does one's ability to choose their own life include being able to end it?

    Then there are other cases. Those who feel they have no other recourse in life and choose to escape it.

    There are also cultural differences, not so much in the modern world to my understanding (would have to consult my colleagues who are anthrpologists on this one), but in previous societies, suicide in certain conditions were viewed as a way to bring one's end about in an honorable way. Both eastern and western socities accepted this.

    My point is, suicide, like any other philosophical question, is not a universally simple answer. It is an ethical dychotomy that must be seen from case to case.

    My own opinion on the matter also varies. I do agree that each person has the right to decide how to live and end, if they so choose to, their own life. Yet I look at some cases, especially in younger people, where I think teh decision is made to rashly. There is nothing in life that is so damming that one should have no other recourse, although, there are times that can create an emotional feeling of it.

    Some researchers I do know, who have studied death and dying from an anthropological stand point, would argue that it can be the human races instinctive way of weeding itself out so to speak. Which sounds way to close to a darwinian natural selection for my tastes.

    However, I not only disagree with this, I totally discard it.

    Human beings have an inherent survival instinct. I believe that the recourse of suicide is not something we think and feel of our own accord, but rather a societial constraint that has been introduced to us.

    What I mean is this; as I stated, no problem ever exists that has no solution; whether or not this answer is available or understandable to us does not negate the fact that the solution exists. If one were given the right conditions from those or even one person around them, it is possible to, if nothing else, have that search for that solution become our reason to survive and live.

    Life is a precious gift, and To any of you who may read this thread and have lost someone to suicide, my heart and sympathy goes out to you with all I have. Though none of us can chage what has been chosen, perhaps as we live, we can share our happiness and at the least time, to prevent it from occuring again.
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    Post by JennyReika Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:39 am

    Now there are only a few reasons I dont believe in suicide...

    I think I said before that... I really dont believe there are too many things worth ending your life over... Especially since when you do it, youre basically giving yourself a free out, and saying youre too weak to wait for the good things to come into your life, also, youre just hurting the ppl around you that love you...

    Its also the one unforgivable sin.

    Besides all this...
    Recently I have come to the realization that sometimes, you just realize that things might never ever change. Just when things seem to get good, it seems like they revert, or even get worse than they ever were before.

    How do you trust someone, believe someone is so perfect... and then they just leave you?! With nothing!???!?! How is this possible?

    Eventually you think to yourself, what is even the point? Why do I even exist? Am I here just to be everyones pawn? Just to be the person that everybody uses?

    Its one thing when everybody youve been with were people who you wanted, and they wanted... and all that.
    But when you decide to be with someone who wanted you because you knew how much they would love you after so much time telling you, and you finally give yourself to them, everything you have... do whatever you can to make them happy and help them, give them every ounce of your being until you have nothing left...
    What do you have after that?

    What about people who marry someone, and gave them their whole life after being hurt for so long, and they never have any kids, so after they divorce them... they have nothing to live for, because they believed in one person so much, and that person lets them down... just, leaves one day... out of nowhere...

    I mean, what do you live for after that?
    For the same thing to happen again? and again? and again? and again?

    Eventually, you just become a bitter person and you can never see the good in anybody or trust anybody again.

    I could never kill myself, I'm not able to do that, its just not built in me...
    But I could see why some ppl would see life as hopeless at some point.
    I still never think its a reason to take your life.

    Man, my life sucks right now...
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    Post by Kagome Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:38 am

    Suicide has had a major impact in my life as I've had a cousin to commit suicide and have personally witnessed someone shoot themselves. In both cases, neither survived.

    Suicide has been a touchy subject with me. I am against it because it hurts so many more people than the person that has attempted/committed suicide. Though they think it is for the best, they don't seem to see how it causes great emotional trauma to their family and friends. *sigh* :( Sorry.. that's all I feel like saying....

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