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    Post by Loli Gaga Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:39 pm

    ok so, assuming you are a part of my virtual family world, i would like to ask for your help regarding what our clan name is gonna be...

    momo said noble so yeah noble family clan of...

    thats the problem, no name yet, i was thinking Sagashiro, but that's my yakuza clan name, so no can do huns, i need your suggestions and i need them quick.

    momo and ichi.

    kk reply here, and i dunno where to place this either @.@
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:25 pm

    According to my status now I'm your stepson.. so Can I give a try at finding a name
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    Post by Loli Gaga Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:41 pm

    ehh, step son?

    wait your out with hina?

    ok okay, gimme names ryuhi!!

    plus i think we need a house description, how it should look like, so we would all agree to it
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    Post by Haji Yukimura Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:42 pm

    I'm not a part of your clan, but maybe I can help with a name.

    What type are you looking for? Something realistic or something completely made on your own?

    If you want, here are a list of famous noble names; maybe you can take one, or use one to inspire an idea of your own.


    Asai

    Oda

    Date

    Hojo

    Imagawa

    Sanada

    Minamoto

    Tokugawa

    Shimazu

    Toyotomi

    Takeda

    Yamamoto

    or if you prefer a more western feel;

    Tudor

    Bourbon

    Carolinigian

    Capetian

    Bonaparte

    Hanover

    Windser

    Stuart

    Lancaster

    Norman



    Well that's just a few. Of course most of those are not just noble names but royal names. If you want to look more on your own, you can expand on each of them and learn about noble families in each era. The cool thing about western history is that most monarchies and noble families are deeply intertwined with one another, so you may look up a king of Spain, and find links to a monarch of the Austria-Hungarian empire... lol

    sorry to step in uninvited, but I like this sort of thing..History Major..lol

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    Post by Loli Gaga Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:11 pm

    OK familiy members!!

    haji pwnz as always, thanks for the list, but lets go for the japanese feel eh?

    or do you want a western one?

    i kinda like Takeda or Tokugawa.

    how about Shimano? or Yamaguchi?
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:55 pm

    I would propose Akechi, after the eleven days Shogun Akechi Mitsuhide or Uesugi after Uesugi Kenshin, the God of War ^^
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    Post by Loli Gaga Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:08 pm

    Ok, i've decided to have too last names...

    seeing as to for example ruru has a dead hubby @.@

    lets have too, but i need more last names XD
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    Post by Haji Yukimura Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:58 am

    well Akechi Mitsuhide was never shogun. He was killed by the Toyotomi (supposedly at Yamazaki) long before the Tokugawa set up the Shogunate, and long after the fall of the Ashikaga Shogunate. He was only a retainer under the Oda.

    Ok, so if you want a noble name with a Japanese feel, as a Japanese historian, I can offer you some ideas, but personally I would suggest doing this:

    Try creating one of your own. You could start with a word like, "Take" which is the Japanese word for Bamboo. Then take something like "Mori" which means Forest and put them together like this:

    Takamori Thus your clan name means "Bambo Forest"

    Or you could use a word like I have in my last name "Mura" which usually means Village, and it does literally, but it is also used to mean "Grove" since a grove of trees are basically a village of trees..lol

    So applying that now you could say:

    Takamura meaning "Bamboo Grove"


    If there is anything you would like to know the meaning of, just ask me. Also keep in mind, since it's a surname you are after, most Japanese surnames relate to a specific geographic thing like a grove of trees, villages or snow or something, and Noble names in particular, or they refer to some geographic village name or location. The reason for this is that before the Tokugawa Shogunate, people didn't have surnames. The shogunate made people began to take surnames, in order to keep accurate population information, sometime around the late 1600's / early 1700's.

    Now the list I sent you above has a variety of Japanese noble names. Also please remember something; not every last name you come across, Honda for example, is a noble name. In fact, the Honda were a part of the Tokugawa Clan. The only actual "Noble" Names from Japanese were surnames of the Imperial Family, the Shogun, or any Daimyo's (People who were like governors or lords of a province and answered only to the shogun). otherwise they are just a part of someone else..lol

    [Imperial Family]

    No actual surname, only a given name that ends in -hito like Hirohito (Hiro + Hito)

    [Shogunate]

    Taira

    Minamoto (the oldest Shogun clan name. To even be a Shogun, you must be able to prove or forge, proof that you are directly descended from the Minamoto.)

    Ashikaga

    Tokugawa

    [Daimyo Names]

    Amako

    Arima

    Asai

    Chosokabe

    Date

    Toyotomi

    Imagawa

    Hojo

    Mori

    Mogami

    Oda

    Ômura

    Ôtomo

    Sanada

    Shimazu

    Takeda

    Uesugi

    Ukita

    well that should give you some choices..lol


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    Post by Guest Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:01 am

    Wasn'T mitsuhide Shogun for eleven days before he was killed ?

    I know that Fan-wiedling Ishida (Lol Samurai Warriors) got captured at Sekigahara by the Tokugawa tho
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    Post by Haji Yukimura Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:58 am

    nah; actually there was no shogunate reestablished until the Tokugawa.

    Even Nobunaga never saw that Honor. In fact, he never even lived to see Japan become one country again. Neither did Mitsuhide for that matter.

    Once Hideyoshi brought Japan back to one country, he could not be given the title Seii Taishōgun (Shogun for short), since he could make no ties to the Minamoto clan.

    Funny thing is, neither could Ieyasu, but what he did was forge documents that he forced the emperor to accept, thus the next Shugonate, the Tokugawa was born. It lasted until around 1867, following the Meiji restoration.

    That was always the big issue I had as a historian in the subject with the Samurai warriors game. It's basically made up facts in a lot of places, but it's still a cool game.

    Ok, now I don't want to get to far off subject..lol I just wanted to help find a name for your clan.
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    Post by Nance Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:16 pm

    Let me have my moment of spam XD Some are repeat.. xD

    Konoe Takashi Kujo Ichijo Gojo
    Aburakoji Anenokoji Asukai Daigo Hirohata Imaidegawa
    Inokuma Jimyoin Kajuji Kaoin Karasuma Kawashi
    Konjo Kuga Masachika Matsuki Minase Nakayama
    Nanba Nomiya Oimikado Rakujochigusa Reizei Saioji
    Sanjo Shigenoi Shijo Shimizudani Tokudaiji Washio
    Yamashina Asai Askikaga Chosokabe Date Fukushima Genji
    Hachisuka Hattori Heike Hojo Honda Hosokawa
    Ishida Kaga Kato Kuki Kuroda Maeda
    Matsudaira Miyamoto Mori Murakami Oda Okamoto
    Okubo Ooka Saito Shibata Shimazu Suwa
    Takeda Takigawa Tanuma Tokugawa Ukita Watanabe
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    Post by Loli Gaga Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:35 am

    ZOMFG i love you nance thats a lot, now just for a family meeting, those two should see this really, the ones involved @>@

    i'm kinda grown on the liking of the last name Kuonji BUWAHAHA

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