BD mod war thread [only topic BD moderation]

OK! listen up girlz,i know a lot of you have been a witness on todays unusual event.

so i start up this thread, and may the grudges between everyone end here and remain here and not go out of in which places they shouldn't be discussed upon.

i made this to hear everyone out, ok?

i want things to go on a flow smoothly again, we can fix this through proper argument and discussion.

and not just pin someone out just cause they cant do anything back.

i've said my piece enough times, whats your excuse?

Juju if I ever offended you it would be because:

1. You made a joke I don't like, I have been banned from a million different anime forums I don't need to hear I'm going to bannils you. I don't take ban cutely. I just don't.


2. Because of your persistent Get a username, I hate anon, anon anon anon hate, get a username

There is nothing in the requirements that says I need a username in the chat.


Okay on the full situation:

I feel I did nothing.
I didn't insult anyone, all I was doing was stating my experiences and observations of anime forums.
And I was also stating why I critique the way I do.
There was nothing that I was saying about people.

Well here I go...

I apologize to Juju and Jenny for my statements
I apologize to ruru and my Division, especially Dark, for being an awful Captain
What I did was bad, and I won't do it again. I have my beliefs, but they aren't fit for a forum, and I'll keep them to myself the next time I act

I am not going to try saying that I'm innocent..No I won'T because I know I am guilty even If I think the sentence that was given to me is severe for the nature of my crime

are you just saying this for the sake of saying it?

but yeah, please lets all make peace, i cant function normaly, i feel like i have PMS or something.

Trust me ruru, If I would say it just because I'd be forced to, I wouldn'T have said it and I would have left here, and I wouldn'T have complained after getting banned or IP blocked or whatever

I'm willing to make peace with everyone..If they are willing to do so with me. I can't force them to do so

yeaaah peace sounds good to my ear, i feel like i've been hearing daggers all day, DAGGER DAGGER!

peace is nice

-floats-

please make peace its friggn day of the hearts ATM ><

Currently, I don't know how I'm a part of this, but I surely know I was...
I'm completely fine with both Hazou and Cantin, I hold nothing against them just as long as this kinda stuff doesn't happen again...
I'm not saying they're the only ones at fault here, but they're the only ones that have put somewhat of an effort to get things settled... And that get's them some points back in my book...

Cantin you don't have to go down on your knees full of apology.
If the others aren't willing to settle the situation, they only deserve the apology not the knee praying.
Personally, I think Dark doesn't give a if you were a good captain or not. He never said anything about so that is all I assume.
Second off, Terminar I don't see why I have gain points back in your book.
As I said before no one can clearly see the other side of this situation.
It wasn't just me and Cantin.
And as I said before, but my IP was banned if calling Jenny popular was an insult then I wonder what calling her a rose would get, a week ban possibly.

For starters, I never said it was just you and Cantin... If you read my post correctly I said you two weren't the only ones at fault...
And the getting points back thing is just an expression I use... You're stating you opinion openly while the other are not, and I respect that... I can say that I was quite unhappy with both you and Cantin, but now I'm not... It's as simple as that...

And you don't have the right to say what Cantin should or shouldn't have done... Like you have said yourself, "No one can clearly see the other side of the situation"...
He might have other reasons for promoting Dark, and he can apologize however he wishes because that could just be the way he was raised to do so...

Juju didn't get my hints before I attacked her. I think I hinted at her a couple of times I would like her to tone it down.
She didn't get the hint, so instead I say it fully out.
And you know its a popularity contest and you know.
All the girls surround Juju, oh Juju she's cute.
All the girls ban together, and Juju and her thoughts of owning people.
If that isn't considered popularity then I guess I was hit on the head.
And sadly your argument, Jenny, doesn't work with me.
I have been to so many anime forums, and they say we are dedicated, we love our jobs.
And yet they don't really seem to show to me that they love their jobs are capable of the job.
No court appearance for me, but for someone else hear them out.
That is how it felt with Juju.
And I said that one thing about Juju, one thing. And that is it.

Well. I'm not involved in this in anyway, so I thought I should post something myself, since I have an unbiased view on it.

Well, here is how I see things as they were layed out.

I went back and read through all the comments on the chatbox, all 6 pages of them, and here is what i noticed;

When it began, hazou and cantin both had valid points. Let me be clear, i didn't say i agreed with them, but they were valid.

But, it eventually deteriorated into an insults and attacking; that is where the problem comes in.

Now to be fair, I can understand the view point about Juju. She can be a bit much at times, but she's not that bad.
She just wants to have fun, and sometimes it doesn't come across that way to others.

Truthfully, the problem as it stands is no fault of any party. What it boils down to is 3 people with different perspectives and personalities that conflict at times. this is unavoidable in life, so naturally it will be here also.

The only way to work around that is to seat down and let each other know how you feel, and perhaps you won't rub each other the wrong way.

I mean seriously, it is possible for people who hate each other to function together, so it's easy for the 3 of you.

Say what you want, but I know you 3 don't hate each other, you're just upset at each others actions.

I said this last night after reading the chatbox, and I'll say it here; this kind of thing is not something you need to do out in public.

It has nothing to do with being honest or open, or for that matter even feeling ashamed or something of your point; it has nothing to do with anything of that nature.

The reason it shouldn't be in public is because, if you open it up to the public, other people get involved and it tumbles down like a landslide, making things worse.

If you don't like what someone says/does/acts, then take it directly to them in pm, and don't sugar coat it. You can be frank without being mean or disrespectful. It's just a matter of tact.

If you feel you have a valid point, just say something like, "Juju, listen, I don't like such and such, and I know you like to play alot, but could you please just hold back a bit? I mean no disrespect to you, but it's starting to get to me some. I know we can get along, so just tone it down some, and I'll try not to take so much to seriously ok?"

If you look at that, I didn't sugar coat it. It was straight forward. BUT I also didn't attack or insult her. It sucks but life is about comprimise sometimes. In this case, sometimes you just have to stop and ask yourself if your taking something in a fake world to seriously. Sometimes, not all of course, but sometimes you will find maybe you did.

And on that note, if you think there may be a miscommunication, then ask. You'll save alot of time and headache.

Now back to point, here is why i brought up the public. Because it was done in public, Jenny got involved. Now, I'm not saying that sticking up for a freind is wrong, but it was something she shouldn't have had the option to get involved in.

This is what i mean by public view landslide.

because she got involved, the argument deteriorated into insults, as she was not part of the original point, and it went way off track. That is why it should have been done in private.

Look, in the end from what i see is a situation that was handled badly by all parties involved, because emotions ran too high.

I will say that the attacks on Juju were uncalled for, even if done with good intentions. Attacking someone is not a rality check; A reality check is bringing your argument to the table with valid proof that can't be rebuffed by the person in question. The words may seem negative, but in fact a reality check means to offer someone a view of things as they are; and I don't think any of you want what happened to be an accurate representation of who you are.

Now as I read above, hazou you mentioned you gave hints. I can undrstand and respect that, but keep something in mind; hints are often hard for people to catch. Think about it like this; there may be a girl out there that is hinting at you everyday that she likes you, and in her mind, it makes perfect sense, but you are oblivious to it because the hints seem normal to you.

All I'm saying is don't hint about it next time. Take it to the person in question in private, and say it flat out, with a bit of tact. You will accomplish so much more.

No I'm not even going to touch the popularity thing; the reason being is that i see no reason for it. It's off topic with the whole point, in as whereas it falls on promotions or captianship.

If popularity means the ability to get along with and work well with others then yes, I suppose it plays in, but that's about it. I'll even open myself up for a shot here; I didn't become a VC because I'm popular; I was selected because I showe up in the division, helped pick the activity back up and created a large portion of what is now in use. To be honest, I never expected to be VC of the 11th; it's kinda awkward to me to say, but that's just it. The proof it wasn't popularity is even easier than that; I barely know most of you, so how could I be popular?

The point I'm making boils down to this; decisions on captians are not something one person or a small group makes. It's a large cllective and believe it or not, not one person alone can manipulate it.

There is only one answer here that is going to solve everything; The 3 of you are going to have to speak in private and work out whats eating at you; if you have to yell and scream at each other in private, then so be it. Doing it in PM will not allow you to gang up on, humiliate, or involve others.

If the 3 of you will just simply talk, you'd be surprised at what you might get done; you may even find out you have alot in common.

I'll leave this with this; I have nothing against any of you; I barely know you guys and I have no bias one way or the other. Making peace can be easier then you think; there is no need for long drawn out apologies or anything, just open dialouge.

As I remember, there was a lot of talk about simply expressing opinions; actually that's good. But remember; if you are truthfully doing that, then you must let the other person express theirs.

Plain and simple; just be cool and talk it out in private.

Haji

closing the thread now

since you forgot to close it, i wull do it for you.

^^